most of us know the 1/2 dozen or so flip flops the wts has had on whether or not the people of sodom would be resurrected.
currently, i believe the "newest light" is no, but has the wts said anything concerning a resurrection for their children & babies?
if the sodom children & babies receive no resurrection, that would seem a bit unfair when the wts is willing to claim resurrection for jw pedophile sodomizers.
Guess the odds are 50/50
comments you will not hear at the 07-04-10 wt study (may 15, 2010, pages 8-12)(men submit).
review comments will be in red or headed by comments.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
Blondie, Thanks again for your many efforts.
One thing - I think that you have forgotten to post the past few on JWR and we have many newbie, some who still have to attend meetings for which this would be helpful. Can you please repost here too. Thanks once again.
can anyone tell me how long the jw homestudy lasts.
we are already going on a year and a half, and thank god i have not been converted yet.
i am sick of hearing their version of the bible.
Studying with you is "easy hours". Far easier than door to door. I know various examples of studies that have lasted for over a decade. The only one who can call it quits is you.
But perhaps you should do a study which focusses on the history of their organization. Use the book "Captives of a Concept" to guide you through. Discuss topics like 607 versus 587 with them and see how long it will then last...
the u k is following the trend of recent years in reporting that 637 less people attended the memorial than in 2009. the actual figure was 222795 as reported in the july kingdom ministry.
(sorry i can't provide a scan as i only got to have a sneak look at it.
) there were 284 partakers.. since 2003 that is a 2% increase.
I think in the past, many who left the org, still tended to attend the memorial. With the majority now leaving for discovering the truth about the "truth" they see no need to continue attendance to listen to the bullshit. Hence the organization's house of cards is starting to crumble.
Same is for active publishers. Now kept up artificially by old/sick reporting 15 minutes and both parents reporting 4 hours automatically.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9lfodn9yr8.
i am off to convention tomorrow.
for the first time in my life i don't want to go...but i have to, this sucks..
Well you then get to take receipt of the new brochures, including "The Origin of Life" which I have posted a large number of the references. Hre is a great youtube video to warm you up.
i know i only posted on the board 8 days ago- a little over a week.. at the beginning of this week, i went from hopeless and depressed, feeling like i had no way out.. .
but throughout the course of 8 days, i have been shown kindness that i haven't seen in years.. i have been reached out to in ways i didn't even know was possible.. in a little over 8 days, i went from feeling alone in a dark abyss of a world, to having an entire support group, that i know cares about me and understands me and exactly how i think and feel.. in one week, i have mustered up the courage to speak up to a friend who i have known for half my life, but was too afrait to tell about my doubts.. i have come to realize that, he, too is planning to leave this organization- never telling me because of fear i would reject him- and likewise for me.. i just wanted to notify all who have helped, that you will not be forgotten- i would have never imagined this much support when i first submitted my account information one month ago, unsure about my entire life.. .
i don't know how else to put this, so i will put it rather frankly:.
Great to hear your friend has doubts to. A great project for you to do together is work yourselves through a few "must reads" such as Crisis of Conscience by former Governing Body member Raymond Franz. The URL below points you to a summary I have compilied of it and a few other goodies.
Such readings is really a must if you want full and proper closure and enough factual information to take a decision.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4992
*** text for june-30-10 ***.
wednesday, june 30. he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.-ps.
103:14.. jehovah does not expect us to be perfect in the absolute sense.
spotted the word EVIDENTLY once.
why has god allowed this system to go on for soo long?
he's god he doesn't need to prove anything to anyone!
why have the billions that have lived on this earth had to suffer for what two people did in eden?.
The only conclusion for me is that God does not exist. If, you and I as simple human beings would do something about the suffering if we had the power - than how come someone who is omnipotent and love itself allows billions of people to suffer, get sick, live in poverty and eventually die - all because two people ate a f*cking apple. No the only valid explaination for me is that the scientific explaination of big-bang and evolution must be true.
If I am wrong and God does exist, he can take a freaking hike - I want no part of such a person...
it would take too long to explain how this conversation came about, but my jw sister recently told me that the organization now teaches that you can (she even suggested that you "should") have a relationship with family members who are not jw.
she didn't specify whether they meant family who were never jws to begin with, or what, but in the context of the conversation we were talking about family members raised as jws but then left (not disfellowshipped or formally disassociated ... just left).. she said they even had a talk about it at the convention this summer, and had an experience of someone who reconnected with family after 10 years.
she said they said you should have a relationship with them, even if they never become witnesses.
My understanding is that the talk at the DC this year advised to minimize contact with non-witness family.
